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JOHN NAISBITT
The Megatrends futurist
Asia - Number One Next Century
Jorge Nascimento Rodrigues (1996)
The futurist John Naisbitt has just
published (1996) another book about megatrends, his
literary expertise, since 1984, when he published the
famous best seller "Megatrends". The "buzzword"
conquered the academic and business sector and Naisbitt
has tried to write more books on the subject. Sometimes
he associated the publishing with his wife, as proved
by "Megatrends for Women".
Now he published "Megatrends Asia"
to honour this continent, that is emerging as the number
one of the next century. During the last year and a
half, Naisbitt was in Kuala Lampur, in Malaysia, and
from there he visited the region feeling the incredible
dynamism of several generations of business man and
the wave of brain power that travel from the West back
home, bringing in their luggage what is updated in terms
of technologies and management concepts. What impressed
him most was the almost 60 million of Chinese of the
diaspora, the more important card of Asia. Among them,
the women, one of them was even one of his inspiring
muses.
Sixty-six years of age, he still maintains
his good humour. During the interview, he underlined
several times some conclusions with a loud laughter.
When he is not travelling around the world, particularly
in Asia, he lives in Cambridge (near Boston) and in
Colorado and directs in Washington the Megatrends Limited
consultant company and the Global Network that publishes
"John Naisbitt´s Trends Letter".
Do you think that the triad concept - the economic
division of the world by United States, the European
Union, and Japan, maintains its validity? Or do you
think, for example, that Japan's decline and the rise
of other dynamic economies, as Singapore, are the dead
bells for the triad domain?
JOHN NAISBITT - I don't see the triad as a concept.
But as the obvious existence of three focus in the world,
in this particular moment. Analysing each of them, it
occurs to me to say that the European Union won't be
one of the major players in the world economy. On the
other hand, I think that the US are doing very well.
I think Japan is going down on the curve and has a long
way to go. And, like it was demonstrated in France,
that is very difficult to negotiate. Although I don't
consider Europe as one of the main players, it is obvious
that it will continue to have its importance. But not
so intensely as North America and even South America.
Clearly, as I write in this last book, it is Asia that
is behaving specially well and will play the main role.
She is driving world economy in this moment. We are
at the wake of a renaissance in Asia.
But, in your idea of the emergence of Asia, who will
be the great protagonists, if Japan still has a long
way to go and if China owes it success to the natives
that came back to their country, as you say in your
book?
J.N. - In my opinion, Japan has a relative importance
for the emergence of Asia. The Chinese card is not China
itself, but the Chinese that met in diaspora, out of
China. The importance of China resides fundamentally
on its entrepreneurs, that are a part of the 60 million
Chinese of the diaspora, that left the continent during
decades. They created a network with an incredible economic
strength in all Asia and now have their eyes and money
on China. I wrote in this last book that the dominant
force of Asia's future will be that net. Small countries,
like Singapore, as you referred previously, are very
small, but they fit in that network.
So, with all those new protagonists that do not fit
in that picture that triad was, aren't we walking towards
a new reality?
J.N. -I think that we are walking in the direction
of a new world economy, that in a long term future will
constitute a sole free market.
And in that picture, how do you see the emergence of
what Kenichi Ohmae refers in his book, "The End
of Nation State", as the state-regions?
J.N. - The Chinese diaspora is dominating the whole
Asian economy, with the exception of Japan, South Korea
and India. It is also necessary to refer the Indian
diaspora, of about 10 million of non residents, that
generate an economy that is bigger than India. We have
to think less of State-Nations. In this way, it is getting
more complicated to know, for example, the GNP, of each
country, because each country has a lot of economic
relations with the rest of the world. Today, the statistic
methods used to calculate the GNP are out of fashion.
As Kenichi Ohmae puts it: the State-Nations are, in
fact, in decline.
But what type of global economy is borning?
J.N. - The frontiers, in the future, won't mean a lot,
because the world is dominated by interpersonal legal
relations. The governments do not create added value.
It's the people and the companies that do it. Being
so, the present importance of the State-Nation will
stop making sense.
How do you analyse the present creation of regional
blocks of commerce?
J.N. - In my opinion, they are blocks in the direction
of one economy. The triangles of growth are another
step in the way of a total integration in the global
economy. These are mechanisms that aim the total integration
of the global economy.
You talked about the renaissance of Asia. What is your
evaluation of the growth of the asiatism as a doctrine?
Can you comment the recent book, Voice of Asia, of Mahathir
Mohamad, the present prime-minister of Malaysia, and
the Japanese Shintaro Ishihara that wrote with Akio
Morita the book "The Japan that can say no"...
J.N. - I still haven't had the opportunity of reading
that book. I am certain, however, that we will talk
more and more of asiatisation. Although it is very difficult
to demonstrate, I agree with the Asians when they say
that the welfare state burned our chances of competitiveness.
Asia does not have such a state, and will never have
it. That will bring implications in economic, cultural
and political terms. What happens in Asia and in the
East, in general, will influence the West and the rest
of the world. And this is only the beginning.
In the book, you say that Asia is passing from the
model of labour intensive specialisation to another
one, supported by technology and knowledge. Can you
give some examples of that change?
J.N. - The inversion of the brain drain I talked about,
as well as the return of highly qualified workers are
creating a lot of business initiatives in the area of
high technology. For example, in one of Taiwan technological
parks there is more than a hundred companies, and about
half is managed by Asians that came back from the US.
Due to the technology they possess, the companies are
getting good results.
What are the next megatrends you have in mind, after
this Megatrends Asia? What will be your next book?
J.N. - At this moment, I am only going to talk about
my last book about Asia. It was only published here
(in US) in the start of the year. As you know, it was
published first in the region that gave it the existence.
So, don't talk about more books now. I'm literally exhausted
after observing for a year several Asian countries.
This is my first interview after 8 days in Hong Kong
hospital.
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